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could i ask for whats your reason for having thor's actions in the entire library plot? i checked your application, and noticed you take him from post avengers. if he's from post avengers, he had just arrested his brother after he invaded new york and killed a lot of people. why did he go along with the plot, after experiencing firsthand what loki's evilness? most of all why is he so surprised that he killed wan shi tong and why is he mad about it? because the option wasn't sane or right? this is loki we're talking about. for all his time in luceti, thor needs to remember what loki can do and will do. i feel like that thor would have put a stop to this, the moment he found out. not enable the plans of a mass murderer slash attempted world conquerer. it would be nice to hear your explanation of this, get a better understanding of whats going on. its becoming messy imo, and some of the players and me are hoping this wraps up soon.
First I'd like to apologize on how long it's taken me to respond.
Thor is from the end of the Avengers, true, and when he initially arrived in November and ran into Loki he fully expected to be dealing with the dickbag that invaded a city just because daddy didn't love him enough. When all he got out of that not quite argument was his clothing stolen he was highly surprised. Loki at the time was still from the end of the Avengers as well and had been in Luceti for a year and two months but Thor didn't know that or understand why he walked away from him without a knife in his kidneys. After observing Loki in the village and realizing that he's somewhat changed from the man he was hauling to Asgard cuffed and muzzled, he opted to just avoid him. When he was canon updated in December Loki reached out to Thor upon his return to discuss what had happened in his personal timeline. Thor was wary of trusting him with good reason but that he told Rogue the exact same story and Thor is aware that Loki does not lie to Rogue, ever (something else that surprises him and makes him wonder about the village's positive effects on his brother), he chose to believe him and has since been building a new relationship with his much changed brother for the past five months and some change.
Being Aesir and more or less ageless he's more familiar with a jerkass trickster than he is a crazy, murderous psychopath. He's had over 1000 years with that version of his brother and is used to anticipating that pattern of behavior than this recent aberration. At the beginning of Thor it's apparent that he trusts his brother completely. During the course of The Avengers, he says over and over that Loki's not in his right mind, that he's mad, that what he's doing is mad. This Loki, in the village, is not that Loki. It's closer to the one he's used to trusting at his back above all else. Over the course of the films he's watched his younger brother go crazy and off the rails and is still adjusting to what that Loki is capable of. Having some hint that maybe, just maybe something closer to what he's used to could come about? Is something he hopes to encourage. He wants his younger brother back.
For his involvement in the plot, he didn't know what Loki was planning at all. Loki does what he does without consulting anyone, let alone his older brother. It was only after Loki had moved the books and made his announcement Thor knew anything about the issue. Only after it was explained to him as something done for the sake of freedom of information after Loki started to buy his own bullshit explanation for doing what he did was Thor on board with protecting those that would go to the school for books.
No one should be hurt over a difference of opinion in his mind and he couldn't exactly move them all back. What he could do is make sure no one got hurt just for wanting to read or learn so he stood guard in case the Owl attacked. He doesn't know Wan Shi Tong, doesn't know anything of his world and didn't know if it would be an issue or not, but thought it best to take the precaution just in case.
When Wan Shi Tong did arrive and start fighting he didn't think it'd get too dangerous for either of them- he wasn't going to kill an owl for doing whatever it was he wanted to do, just chase him off. When Loki jumped in- in his defense of all things- he was surprised. Loki giving a damn about his wellbeing after New York isn't something he thought would happen, let alone so vehemently. That he put himself in a position to get hurt while fighting and not make use of his illusions as he usually does surprised him because Loki putting himself in danger for Thor's sake, again after New York, really doesn't fit with his view of Loki. The killing? He's not surprised by. Just highly disappointed.
He had hoped after Loki didn't just immediately murder Wan Shi Tong when the fight started that maybe he wasn't going to kill the owl. When he jumped in, he knew it was pretty likely someone would die and really didn't want that to happen because dying over books is stupid to Thor. It was why he attempted to separate them- and even that didn't work out so well. Loki killed Wan and that's it. Thor's been made aware that killing, here, isn't killing and that the Owl will be back in a week but it's still frustrating for him to watch his brother backslide from his apparent good behavior. That they're arguing now is just another part who they are. They've been arguing over any little thing for over 1000 years. Old habits are hard to break. Thor figures one good beating for his brother doing something dumb is well earned.
If you have any further questions please ask, and any questions about Loki's characterization and choices can be taken to Loki-mun.
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Thor is from the end of the Avengers, true, and when he initially arrived in November and ran into Loki he fully expected to be dealing with the dickbag that invaded a city just because daddy didn't love him enough. When all he got out of that not quite argument was his clothing stolen he was highly surprised. Loki at the time was still from the end of the Avengers as well and had been in Luceti for a year and two months but Thor didn't know that or understand why he walked away from him without a knife in his kidneys. After observing Loki in the village and realizing that he's somewhat changed from the man he was hauling to Asgard cuffed and muzzled, he opted to just avoid him. When he was canon updated in December Loki reached out to Thor upon his return to discuss what had happened in his personal timeline. Thor was wary of trusting him with good reason but that he told Rogue the exact same story and Thor is aware that Loki does not lie to Rogue, ever (something else that surprises him and makes him wonder about the village's positive effects on his brother), he chose to believe him and has since been building a new relationship with his much changed brother for the past five months and some change.
Being Aesir and more or less ageless he's more familiar with a jerkass trickster than he is a crazy, murderous psychopath. He's had over 1000 years with that version of his brother and is used to anticipating that pattern of behavior than this recent aberration. At the beginning of Thor it's apparent that he trusts his brother completely. During the course of The Avengers, he says over and over that Loki's not in his right mind, that he's mad, that what he's doing is mad. This Loki, in the village, is not that Loki. It's closer to the one he's used to trusting at his back above all else. Over the course of the films he's watched his younger brother go crazy and off the rails and is still adjusting to what that Loki is capable of. Having some hint that maybe, just maybe something closer to what he's used to could come about? Is something he hopes to encourage. He wants his younger brother back.
For his involvement in the plot, he didn't know what Loki was planning at all. Loki does what he does without consulting anyone, let alone his older brother. It was only after Loki had moved the books and made his announcement Thor knew anything about the issue. Only after it was explained to him as something done for the sake of freedom of information after Loki started to buy his own bullshit explanation for doing what he did was Thor on board with protecting those that would go to the school for books.
No one should be hurt over a difference of opinion in his mind and he couldn't exactly move them all back. What he could do is make sure no one got hurt just for wanting to read or learn so he stood guard in case the Owl attacked. He doesn't know Wan Shi Tong, doesn't know anything of his world and didn't know if it would be an issue or not, but thought it best to take the precaution just in case.
When Wan Shi Tong did arrive and start fighting he didn't think it'd get too dangerous for either of them- he wasn't going to kill an owl for doing whatever it was he wanted to do, just chase him off. When Loki jumped in- in his defense of all things- he was surprised. Loki giving a damn about his wellbeing after New York isn't something he thought would happen, let alone so vehemently. That he put himself in a position to get hurt while fighting and not make use of his illusions as he usually does surprised him because Loki putting himself in danger for Thor's sake, again after New York, really doesn't fit with his view of Loki. The killing? He's not surprised by. Just highly disappointed.
He had hoped after Loki didn't just immediately murder Wan Shi Tong when the fight started that maybe he wasn't going to kill the owl. When he jumped in, he knew it was pretty likely someone would die and really didn't want that to happen because dying over books is stupid to Thor. It was why he attempted to separate them- and even that didn't work out so well. Loki killed Wan and that's it. Thor's been made aware that killing, here, isn't killing and that the Owl will be back in a week but it's still frustrating for him to watch his brother backslide from his apparent good behavior. That they're arguing now is just another part who they are. They've been arguing over any little thing for over 1000 years. Old habits are hard to break. Thor figures one good beating for his brother doing something dumb is well earned.
If you have any further questions please ask, and any questions about Loki's characterization and choices can be taken to Loki-mun.